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Come on now lads don't be having a go it's not that often the SMALL teams get the chance to make a semi-final appearance

Sorry Mourinho even

NEIL LENNON has welcomed Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho's backing for Celtic to be in the Barclays Premier League. Ronnie Cully Senior Sports Writer Tuesday 18/02/2014 Mourinho and Lennon met in the United States when Real Madrid played Celtic in 2012 Although the door to the billions which are available down south remains firmly closed to the Hoops, the Portuguese, pictured far left, remains convinced the Scottish champions would add to what is already considered the best league in the world. Mourinho said: "They would bring something special to the league. They are a big club, with a big support and a famous history. "When I have been in England, I've asked my colleagues why Celtic are not playing in the Premier League?" Lennon considers Mourinho's comments to be a huge compliment to the standing of Celtic. They have given the Hoops boss a timely boost, and he responded: "It just shows the reputation that the club has. "When arguably the best manager currently in the world says that, then it does add a bit of weight to it." While they are now on the outside looking in as the Champions League kicks off its knock-out rounds tonight, 12 months ago Scott Brown and Co. were playing Juventus in the last 16. The restrictions of playing in Scotland - where, as champions, they will earn only a fraction of the TV money which is handed out to the bottom-placed club in the Premier League - make it an uphill struggle to remain competitive in Europe. And, in what has rapidly become a one-horse race for the title in the SPFL Premiership - the Hoops are 21 points clear of second-placed Aberdeen with 13 games to go - retaining an edge is proving to be their biggest challenge. Mourinho acknowledges this and added: "They had a strong run last season in the Champions League, but they will always be limited because competition does not seem to be there for them up in Scotland." Mourinho's Chelsea are currently engaged in a thrilling battle for the title in a league which draws fans and interest from all around the world. So, to claim Celtic would bring something special to it, is taken by Lennon as a massive endorsement for the club. The Parkhead boss said: "I think a lot of people do recognise that Celtic would be a welcome addition to England, if it was ever going to happen." But Lennon accepts it is all conjecture as the English clubs show no inclination to drop their resistance to anyone joining them.

But would it not be the 1st time for the NEW club

And unfortunately won't see a penny of it..................Hang on! are they not claiming to be the same club

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Pretty great stuff from their perspective. Fans/investors coughing up £4m, settlement with the bank, a bunch of talent with no pressure to sell. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26079931 Dundee United have eliminated bank debt in a deal which means the club is no longer under pressure to sell players. A bank debt of £4m has been wiped out by a group of fans who have partially paid the bank with their own funds. United had a £3.4m term loan and a £1m overdraft, but chairman Stephen Thompson and the club's board have successfully negotiated a settlement. The club says the deal has been possible due to the support of sympathetic investors. BBC Scotland has learned that Thompson has worked closely with the bank in recent years to reduce the Tannadice club's debt to a level which made the settlement possible. The club's board now feels in a position to operate the business without reliance on bank borrowings. In recent years, the club has sold some of its key players in a bid to reduce their need for bank borrowing. Derby County signed striker Johnny Russell from United last summer for a fee of around £750,000 and David Goodwillie was sold to Blackburn Rovers for £2m in 2011. Midfielder Ryan Gauld, as well as defenders John Souttar and Andrew Robertson, have also been the subject of transfer speculation. United are about to embark on a lengthy programme of community involvement, the details of which will be announced in the next few weeks, and this is supported by the investors who will now stand in place of the bank.

They would need to issue hard hats on arrival. The place is falling doon. I heard this also! Talking of closing certain parts down such is the state of the place

Calm down mate it's not our fault your team went down the swanee

Kris has been one of our best signings, he's never in the paper for the wrong reasons and is a great example to the younger lads in the team, he may have hung up his boots regarding Scotland but he has been a great servant to club and country and if an improved contract is on the table, whether it be monetary or improved terms and conditions then great, we are spending within our means and single handedly spearheading the profile of Scottish football all over the world after a certain team tarnished our league and brought our game almost to its knees, but at the end of the day only one thing matters, Glasgow Celtic, Scotlands champions.

My mate is a jags fan, showed me this earlier, they have a token zombie on the forum and he got clamped a beauty when playing "we are the same club" card. http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums...s/page__st__40 oh dear billyboy, you're still in denial. how about fifa for starters? http://www.fifa.com/...01/7/index.html in their "12 moments that defined 2012 " they state: the club died, the history timeline ceased, the club you now follow is 18 months old, thats its history. media quotes include: - The Herald: “Air of unreality as 140 years of history is formally ended in less than nine minutes” (The Herald, 15 June 2012:http://www.heraldsco...inutes.17876625). - Roddie Forsyth: “Rangers in crisis: the final whistle sounds on Rangers’ 140 years of history” (The Telegraph, 12 June 2012: http://www.telegraph...of-history.html). - Jim Traynor: “Rangers FC as we know them are dead. It’s all over. They are about to shut down for ever…They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended… No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died.” (Daily Record, 13 June 2012:http://www.dailyreco...be-able-1129166). and then, even Charles Green held the same categorical viewpoint [speaking to the BBC if a CVA is not accepted]: “…the history, the tradition, everything that is great about this Club, is swept aside.” many many more, outside the bigotbluebrothersbubble who do not have their heads in sand and are still trotting out the "was company not the club" deluded line, have a look for instance at or how about this from graham spiers, which includes: or how about looking at it from the insolvency law angle? when a company is liquidated its business activities cease to exist. The business of Rangers FC Plc was football. When Rangers FC Plc was wound up, so were the football activities of Rangers FC Plc i.e. the football club and associated merchandising etc. The BBC recognised this fact when they observed that “The Rangers Football Club PLC is a public limited company registered in Scotland (company number: SC004276) and was incorporated on 27 May, 1899. When the current company is officially liquidated, all of its corporate business historywill come to an end.” furthermore, if a new company is formed – using assets bought from the old, liquidated company, for the purposes of operating the same type of business – it is not only a new company that has come into being but also the start of a new business venture, irrespective of the nature of that business. In the context of Rangers, the Rangers FC plying its trade in the SFL is a new football club and not the same club as that which played in the SPL. To deny otherwise is contrary to insolvency law. If it were otherwise then insolvency law would be a meaningless legal instrument. or how about looking at it from the insolvency act angle? legal matters can be determined by statute (Acts of Parliament) or case law. In terms of statute, there is no law that permits a liquidated company’s history to continue unbroken after liquidation: on the contrary, there is one to prevent such an event taking place – The Insolvency Act 1986. In terms of case law, there is no legal precedent to justify the claim that a liquidated company’s history can legitimately resurface under the guise of another company. Once a company is liquidated, its name, historical timeline and associated business activities immediately cease. In the case of a football club, there is no club in the UK that has been liquidated and resurfaced, after liquidation, with its history intact. In Scotland for example, Airdrieonians, formed in 1878 (under the earlier exotic name of Excelsior Football Club) went into liquidation in 2002. In the same year Airdrie FC was formed but because of insolvency law could not lay claim to the history of its previous incarnation, which to their credit they accepted with good grace. Other examples include Gretna and Clydebank. Rangers’ fans erroneously point to the case of Leeds United FC as evidence of a club that has a continuous historical timeline intact after liquidation. In 2007, Leeds United AFC Ltd, under the threat of liquidation, was sold to Leeds United FC Ltd, but with the important proviso that HMRC would agree to a CVA. HMRC did eventually agree to a CVA and Leeds was saved from compulsory liquidation. The club suffered a points deduction and after paying off the creditorsand the proper and orderly transfer of assets from Leeds United AFC Ltd to Leeds United FC Ltd, the old club company was voluntarily wound up. If a CVA had not been agreed and Leeds United AFC Ltd had been forced into compulsory liquidation thenLeeds United FC Ltd (i.e. the new company) would not have been able to claim the history of the old club. Rangers FC is a very different case indeed and Rangers fans cannot point to the example of Leeds FC as an exemple of club survival after liquidation. or how about sfa membership and eufa licence? when Charles Green bought the assets of Rangers FC Plc he also purchased the old club’s SFA membership and SPL share. Prior to liquidation, Rangershad full membership status within Scottish professional football. After liquidation, the club playing in SFL Division 3 was allocated associate membership status. The reason for that was very simple: the Rangers playing in the SFL was a different club than the one which previously played in the SPL. Importantly, the new Rangers applied to join the SPL but their application was rejected, despite a mysterious 5-way agreement. If Rangers was the same club pre and post liquidation then an application would have been completely unnecessary, particularly since they claimed to purchase the old club’s SFA membership and SPL share. Of course, Rangers was legally dissolved after liquidation – hence the need for a fresh application from the new club. Similarly, the new Rangers then applied to join the SFL and this time their application was successful. Remember, if an existing SPL club changes ownership or its holding company changes from a Ltd to a Plc, it has no bearing on the club’s membership status and therefore there is no requirement to re-apply for SFA or SPL membership – it is liquidation that forces that event. Furthermore, because Rangers post-liquidation is a new club, it is unable to compete in European competition for three years. It is a stipulation of EUFA that a license to play in Europe can only be given to a club that has been a member of a national association for three consecutive years. The old Rangers did have a EUFA license but the new Rangers do not. When Rangers FC expired, so did their EUFA license. The fact that the SFA has allowed The Rangers FC to pretend that their history is continuous, contrary to insolvency law, has no bearing on the facts of the case and will forever remain a stain on the SFA’s reputation. there are dozens upon dozens of other examples and legal precedence that could be quoted to highlight the fact that Rangers FC died in 2012, thats the club, its history and everything associated with it. the club you and others who hang on to the false notion it is not, is ultimately a sad reflection of your collective denial and inability to accept reality and truth. in the cold light of day, it is indisputable that the club and company currently operating out of murray and ibrox park is a new club and company. in closing (as i have no intention of continuing to debate the facts and reality, you and other bears steadfastly and stupidly ignore, and instead cling to the denial and completely false belief that the club you now follow is a new club, with a 18 month history, no more no less), i will say hat off to you for your jags reports, updates and enthusiasm for ptfc youths, please keep up that excellence (which is valued and appreciated by many Jags fans), but when it comes to other clubs you supported and now support, we will have to agree to disagree until such a time as you escape the dark side and accept the truth, as unpalatable as it may still be to you and others like you (the grief of losing someone or something close to you, can take a while to come to terms of acceptance that they have indeed died and gone forever).

I'll make this a quick one to settle the arguments regarding the best fans..........How many testimonial games do Rankgers get asked to?

Every mob that go to amsterdam get fucked over by the ajax fans, a load of plain clothed polis was mentioned, so you see a few in civvies jumping a celtic fan, and just stand there and watch, look at the video, there,s loads of plain clothed guys laying into celtic fans, initially i thought they were ajax fans, the fans were provoked beyond breaking point, if anybody thinks this is characteristic of our away fans, then who gives a f**k, they don,t know us. .

JAMIE Redknapp is becoming a familiar face at Celtic Park this season. He was delighted to play in the recent Stiliyan Petrov Legends’ Match, and just a few weeks later, he sat in the Main Stand and cheered on the Hoops against Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League. Having enjoyed the atmosphere of the fixture from a TV studio the previous season, he was delighted to get the opportunity to experience it first-hand. He wasn’t disappointed. “I was at the Barcelona game this season and there is an energy inside the stadium. You can’t help but fall in love with it,” he said. “When you’re a football person and you travel up to watch Celtic on a Champions League night you can’t help being swept along with the atmosphere. “By beating Ajax at home Celtic have given themselves a fighting chance of getting through the group. The draw seemed to be a total nightmare for Celtic - four former winners of the tournament and all with an outstanding European football pedigree. "You feared the worst for Celtic in that section, but there is no reason why they can’t go to Amsterdam and get a result. “Celtic were unlucky against Milan and Barcelona but they can go to Holland and win and can also beat AC Milan at Celtic Park. They can do incredible things at home in Champions League games. “When teams come to Celtic Park you can actually sense the opposition shrinking, especially when they see the crowd Celtic have behind them. “However, you still have to be a good team to constantly produce the kind of performances and the results that Celtic have achieved on the Champions League stage in the last two seasons.” And as well as enjoying Celtic’s European adventures, Redknapp praised Neil Lennon for his pivotal role in the success, not only in the UEFA Champions League but also in general terms as Celtic manager. “It has been an absolute joy and pleasure watching Celtic in the Champions League and Neil is one of the main reasons why,” he said “I played against Neil many times when he was at Leicester and he was a tremendous competitor. He was a good footballer and I always enjoyed playing against him. "I followed his career when he went up to Celtic after leaving Leicester. As a manager he has done so well and I think Neil is one of the best in Britain. “Neil doesn’t get the credit he deserves for the brilliant job he is doing. I don’t just mean in Scotland – I’m talking in European terms, especially for his achievements in the Champions League. “The highest compliment I could pay Neil is that he reminds me so much of my dad in the way he manages his team. Neil, like my father, gets his players to play for him. Both are tremendous organisers and so passionate about the game. “When Neil signs a player they end up being better for having worked under him. That has been my dad’s great strength throughout his career. Players love playing for guys like Neil and my dad as they are football men.