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Nail on head. Anyway, it's happening and I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out, think it will stir interest particularly at the start of the season without the shitey League Cup.

.......but not that involved. Nae idea at the moment.

Nope, I may well be a lot more involved than you think

Thankfully "coconuts" like you are nowhere near making the decisions.

That's what clubs are trying to do, improve the product, dump the meaningless League Cup games and instead have more meaningful league games with more variety of opposition. Turning back the clock doesn't work.

Do Fife club operate differently from everyone else? I have provided examples of small clubs who cope perfectly well with longer travelling distances, Fife clubs will be no different. As for wages, don't pay big wages then! invest instead in facilities and places where people want to come and watch fitba and not knee deep in mud, that will get a few people back through the turnstiles. A Fife League would turn back the clock and frankly destroy competition How can they invest in making facilities better, if they can't get punters to come and watch, and having to fork out over £200 quid every second week for a bus to just get them to games??? I think a fife league would benefit the players that are coming through just now, a lot of players who work a Saturday won't be able to make every game due to travelling, this will turn players away from the junior game. I think you're making stuff up to be honest, how many clubs (who allegedly cant afford it) hire buses anyway? also, for most clubs, nearly all away games will be within a hours drive, hardly the ends of the earth and how do the likes of Steelend or Thornton get to Luncarty or Bankfoot just now?????). You have yet to explain how this new improved system will "turn punters away"? try and substantiate your claims. If people want to watch Junior fitba then they will watch it regardless of opposition, and travelling fans can be counted on the fingers of one hand normally anyway. As for players working Saturday, does that mean currently they cannot make away games in winter due to early kick-offs? you're argument is full of holes. Punters won't travel to watch a game of junior football if they have to go up to the likes of Brechin, Forfar etc!!! They also won't want to watch the teams from the Dundee area, where as if the team they supported were playing say a local derby, the average fan would turn up. Guys who work a Saturday will find it hard if their team was playing up at Forfar for instance, the team bus would be leaving around 11 o clock, where if they were travelling just in Fife probably the furthest they would go would be St Andrews or Newburgh, and if they stayed in Dunfermline, this would take them about an hour or so, and the winter games kick off only half an hour early, so the player could still work up until 12 and make it on time for the game!!! To be playing Bankfoot, Luncarty, they only have to make that trip once a season to both, not every second week!!! And if teams don't hire buses they will have to pay travelling expenses, which would work out more expensive than hiring a bus, give or take a few pounds!!! Nobody is going to be travelling great distances every single week in the new North or South leagues, you keep saying that but its not the case (unless Star Hearts and someone else go North). Also, not every club bothers hiring a bus and players share cars in order to leave a bit later and cut costs. That is the reality now. The fact is, players play for clubs all over the place these days, as an example there is a guy playing for Fauldhouse who lives in Perth. Let's try and deal in facts and not make stuff up to suit your argument. You still haven't answered why most clubs voted in favour of this, are they all wrong and you are right? I believe well over 40 voted in favour, inc many clubs such as Lochgelly. Maybe you should ask some of those guys why they voted the way they did.

Do Fife club operate differently from everyone else? I have provided examples of small clubs who cope perfectly well with longer travelling distances, Fife clubs will be no different. As for wages, don't pay big wages then! invest instead in facilities and places where people want to come and watch fitba and not knee deep in mud, that will get a few people back through the turnstiles. A Fife League would turn back the clock and frankly destroy competition It's ok for your team mate yous get handouts from the Scottish, #loadsamoney My team disnae play in the Juniors, work that one out Einstein!

Do Fife club operate differently from everyone else? I have provided examples of small clubs who cope perfectly well with longer travelling distances, Fife clubs will be no different. As for wages, don't pay big wages then! invest instead in facilities and places where people want to come and watch fitba and not knee deep in mud, that will get a few people back through the turnstiles. A Fife League would turn back the clock and frankly destroy competition How can they invest in making facilities better, if they can't get punters to come and watch, and having to fork out over £200 quid every second week for a bus to just get them to games??? I think a fife league would benefit the players that are coming through just now, a lot of players who work a Saturday won't be able to make every game due to travelling, this will turn players away from the junior game. I couldnt agree with maestro more! Fife league definetely the way forward, teams like crossgates, lochgelly, lochore and thornton surely cant afford to spend hundreds of pounds every 2nd week just on travelling, never mind all the other expenses! No fans are going to travel miles and miles to watch the so-called lower teams, most of them are auld boys who just want a bevvy with a bit old school football in the background. Even Dundonald, probably the biggest set of supporters in the central league but they have an average age of about 65, they boys arent going to travel up north every 2nd week. #FifeFootball? Explain therefore why some of these clubs listed were fully behind the change? could it be that they could see beyond the backward parochial nature of Fife Junior fitba?

Do Fife club operate differently from everyone else? I have provided examples of small clubs who cope perfectly well with longer travelling distances, Fife clubs will be no different. As for wages, don't pay big wages then! invest instead in facilities and places where people want to come and watch fitba and not knee deep in mud, that will get a few people back through the turnstiles. A Fife League would turn back the clock and frankly destroy competition How can they invest in making facilities better, if they can't get punters to come and watch, and having to fork out over £200 quid every second week for a bus to just get them to games??? I think a fife league would benefit the players that are coming through just now, a lot of players who work a Saturday won't be able to make every game due to travelling, this will turn players away from the junior game. I think you're making stuff up to be honest, how many clubs (who allegedly cant afford it) hire buses anyway? also, for most clubs, nearly all away games will be within a hours drive, hardly the ends of the earth and how do the likes of Steelend or Thornton get to Luncarty or Bankfoot just now?????). You have yet to explain how this new improved system will "turn punters away"? try and substantiate your claims. If people want to watch Junior fitba then they will watch it regardless of opposition, and travelling fans can be counted on the fingers of one hand normally anyway. As for players working Saturday, does that mean currently they cannot make away games in winter due to early kick-offs? you're argument is full of holes.

Do Fife club operate differently from everyone else? I have provided examples of small clubs who cope perfectly well with longer travelling distances, Fife clubs will be no different. As for wages, don't pay big wages then! invest instead in facilities and places where people want to come and watch fitba and not knee deep in mud, that will get a few people back through the turnstiles. A Fife League would turn back the clock and frankly destroy competition

With respect, you're not interested in other clubs because it doesn't fit your argument, and if Superleague clubs are asking players to take a wage cut then they're paying them too much in the first place.

If clubs cannot afford to travel an hour for a game every now and again then you have to question whether they have the finances to play Junior fitba in the first place. What happened if one of these clubs got promoted to the Premier League? why aren't these clubs going bust already travelling to Luncarty, Scone & Bankfoot? why aren't Dunbar going bust having to travel to West Lothian regularly? why aren't Dalkeith or Broughty going bust playing in the Premier League? People said the same thing when the Superleague came ine, people said the same thing when the Premier League came in, no club has went bust and the standard has improved. You can encourage people to attend your home games regardless of where the opposition comes from, you can't seriously be suggesting this as a reason to go back to a Fife League? FFS. Junior fitba needs something different to try and generate interest, this new set-up tries to do that.

So? if they dont like it go amateur. The quality of fitba has improved at Superleague and Premier League level due to the region wide competition. The two district divisions wont have the same amount of travelling involved, and it is the best and most straightforward way of getting more teams promoted from these divisions. Where was the whingeing when some clubs were told to travel to Luncarty or Scone or Bankfoot or Jeanfield for league games? travelling for an hour for a league game is hardly a problem, some clubs do that already getting out to Dunbar and Haddington in the South Division.

Going back to a Fife league is a terrible idea, better to play in a league full of strong teams than a league where only two or three clubs can win it.

Fife clubs already travel to north of Perth, so there's very little change. Junior fitba is failing badly just now, turning the clock back wont do any good.